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After Elon met w/ Netanyahu last yr, he came back spewing Pro-Israel talking pts.Twitter immediately started banning thousands of accts who exposed Israeli crimes(banned both 'Anti-Racist'-Leftists & 'Pro-White'-RightWingers). Trump brags that he's the most Pro-Israel President ever. When Evan calls Elon & Trump 'Nazis' & refuses to detail their 'contributions' to the slaughter & ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians, he's giving cover to Elon & Trump. They are not antisemitic. In fact there are few better friends to the Jewish-Zionist community than Musk & Trump. Calling Elon & Trump 'Nazis' is the best gift you can give to Zionist extremists.(Propaganda by omission is still propaganda). Since the Nazis were defeated in 1945, there is perhaps no more brutal right wing, blood & soil EthnoState in the world, than Israel.

If you truly care about the suffering of 'ppl of color' in the world, you would spend your time detailing untold truths & how billionaires, elites & world leaders keep the population passive & distracted. What you wouldn't do is seemingly copy & paste your average blue haired 13 yr old girls tik-tok acct, filled with name calling & TMZ & CNN headlines.

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Hi Evan, I didn't realize Seltzer had linked to this article, so I'll respond now.

I'm sorry that you have to rely on Seltzer (or that orbit of characters) about my "political movement to the right", because that's not really correct. Obviously a Bernie Sanders bro like Seltzer sees right-wingers everywhere he looks, but the truth is a bit more nuanced.

I voted for Gore in 2000, Nader in 2004 (protest vote), McCain in 2008 (formerly the Democrats' most favorite Republican until he ran, and dusted off as a saint when he opposed Trump), Romney in 2012, Clinton in 2016, blank in 2020 (protest vote, again), and RFK Jr. in 2024. In summary, I have voted for both parties, and independents; I assume Seltzer has only voted for Democrats his entire life, yet he pretends I'm the biased one.

In local and state elections, I have voted for both parties, varying from election to election, candidate to candidate. When it comes to referendums and such, I mostly vote along with the Democrats, especially when it comes to old school bread and butter issues.

In Norwegian politics, I have voted for Ap, V and H. I'm what they call a classic liberal, yet find myself having to turn up my nose at the new radical woke movement and all its incarnations in various political parties. Being anti-woke is far from "moving to the right", it's mostly just standing still and refusing to be bullied into absurd political territory, such as suddenly pretending scientific facts about sex no longer applies.

My political journey has been pretty stable since I became more politically aware after 9/11, after an initial turn towards the center and independent affiliation away from the Democrats, due to their dishonest politicization of the Iraq war, a war Clinton, Kerry, Biden and the rest of the lot had always wanted to carry out against Saddam, but then ran against Bush when it proved politically expedient.

The dishonest media attacks on Bush (who also was supposedly Hitler, it's funny how things never really change), and the ease with which it was possible to prove their dishonesty, made me cynical about how the press was using its immense power, not to inform, but to smear, lie, and spread political propaganda, mostly to the benefit of the Democrats (and no, not "liberals", which Seltzer likes to point out, included smearing Bernie Sanders).

You say Trump would have been removed from the political system 20 years ago, and that's probably true, but only because the press at that time had much more control over the public's access to information, and the media business model has changed a lot since then. It's no accident that Trump received billions of dollars in free media from the press during the 2016 campaign; like CBS News chief Moonves openly admitted, Trump is good for business. They thought they were harming Trump with all the negative coverage, but they were actually just giving him an enormous platform.

About Elon Musk's hand gesture, you say that I am the one who pops up to ask people to not believe their own eyes and ask them to suspend disbelief. However, that's backwards, since the media obviously have the supreme power to define such things before people have even seen the video clip, a phenomenon or tactic known as priming, which people have had a lot of fun with when it comes to videos where people see different colors depending on what they were told beforehand.

Before 99.9% of people saw the video of Musk's gesture, the newspaper title blared: NAZI SALUTE. They were told what they were going to see, before they saw it. Most people are passive conformists, and will try to convince themselves of something someone they see as an authority has already told them is true, even if they have to quench any doubt that might bubble up. I do not have that power, I am working to unwrap this brainwashing after it has already happened, which is almost impossible, not to mention because of social proof: everyone else believes what the media told them, who are you to tell me something different?!

A video surfaced of Tim Walz doing the exact same gesture, albeit not as vigorously as Musk. Is he a secret Nazi? Of course not, no one would have taken him to be one, nor did they see his gesture and pretend they thought it was a Nazi salute. This was not because it didn't resemble one in any way, but because there was no pre-existing desire to tie him to Nazis. With Musk, there was.

I watched the video of Musk before all the headlines about Nazi salutes started popping up, and I too saw what was going to happen: this gesture would no doubt be dubbed a Nazi salute, and plastered everywhere in an attempt to smear Musk. Obviously, I was right, and that's exactly what happened. I've been watching the media operate for 20 years, and I can usually predict exactly how the media is going to cover something.

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